[civsoc-mw] Women demo on equality.

Sun Oct 11 18:29:18 CAT 2020

Iwe Keyboard, 

You probably missed the news that teen age pregnancies have increased manifold in the few months of the pandemic....these are virginal births I can only surmise!

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> On Oct 11, 2020, at 5:43 AM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com> wrote:
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> You must be commendable for that. Start at the bottom solving the problem. In 20 years it becomes a norm to see a female bouncer on the door. This rushing to legislate is ill advised.
> 
>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 11:36 Adamson S. Muula, <amuula at medcol.mw> wrote:
>> I suspect the Pharmacy degree was just an example.For the pharmacy programme though since its inception, 50% students are females and 50% males. Good morning,
>> 
>> adamson
>> 
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 at 11:09, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Being a graduate does not mean one is an expert in something. Unima may as well produced 1m women graduates in the past two months bit none fit to be at the poisons board or pharmacy board. Maybe these 1m women graduates specialised in education or nuclear physics. How do you put them to the water board or Escom?
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 11:01 Dunstain Mwaungulu, <dfmwaungulu at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> You are being presumptuous. Those who are in the category you mention could very well be men. Your argument scarcely address the gender issue discussed. Convince me that the University of Malawi in the past 5 years has produced less than 150 women graduates, then I will believe you!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 09:53 Keyboard Boyd Kilembey, <kkilembe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Jaji have you ever attended a meeting where some members had no clue what was before them to decide? It is frustrating. They become petty. They start pretending to know. I wouldn't want the same to be happening in the boards
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 10:45 Dunstain Mwaungulu, <dfmwaungulu at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Bwana wanga, Golomoti, we are talking about law here. Law is not a fact. Whatctfw law now says is that there should be a minimum of each gender of 40%. Thst is not a factual matter. It is a legal factor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What are the facts? The female gender was 23% represented. The President has admitted this fact. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> His defence is that there were no women around to appoint from. This is an opinion rather than a fact. The fact is that universities in Malawi for the past 10 years have been producing more than 300 female graduates. Why 300 because this is the total number the President has appointed to the board. So if the President had just looked at the graduate list of one year, there would be thousands of women graduating each year.  In one year, he would have a surplus in thousands of women. These are facts.
>>>>>> Given these facts, we can say only two things about the ADVICE the President got from a) the VICE PRESIDENT, THE CABINET, THE SECRETARY TO THE PRESIDENT AND CABINET, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE LINE MINISTER, THE LINE PS AND THE TONSE ALLIANCE
>>>>>> 1. He was properly advised and decided deliberately to ignore the advice. OR
>>>>>> 2. He was not properly advised
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know Lazarus personally, I reserve my opinion on what actually happened.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But that goes to the quality of advice given. The President does not know all these people. And as the President said, some boards require certain profociencies. The only people who would have that information would be the PS. The PS shield have been the first person to apply the Act. And inform the President that the Act was considered. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The President would have told the PS that it cannot be that I cannot find 150 women who are board material. That is a disgrace. For 50 years + of the existence of UNIMA, we have failed to produce 150 women? You are kidding me?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> More importantly, a good board is one that includes the lay and others unrelated to the area of operation or supportive services. The PS should have included these as women only to fulfil the 40/40/20 formula.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> These are facts, not fable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 08:53 Charles Golomoti, <cwakudabii.golomoti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> TC and Judge Fipamutima are very strange characters, KPD. During my school days in the Midwest, the two gentlemen would easily have passed as "weirdos". They thrive on empty arguments. Generally, they do not have facts on their fingertips, nada! As such, trying to have a civilized discussion with them is akin to fighting with a pig in the mud, if you get my point. That is their turf, right there. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You know what; I made my two Tambala contribution on this issue. I know the process of appointing Board Members. I have done it. Trevor has not, for sure. Fipamutima, may be.  And what was Trevor's response to my posting? Read this vitriol:  "Inu Bambo Golomoti, who knew you had such drivel in your mouth! Try to clean with Doom". Hee? Was Trevor talking to me, or to Joe Gwaladi?  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My argument is very simple, KPD. Please listen to me, and listen real good: the Tonse-A Team should appoint women into our boards based on merit. Period!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CWG
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 8:17 PM KPD <maluwakpd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> CWG,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wish TC and DM could comment on your post.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Legislating something is not the same as implementation. When I read the constitution under 'The Executive',  I find Firsf Vice President and Second Vice President. After Muluzi no one was ever made Firsf or second Vice president. But the section is still there. Or was it removed?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As you have correctly stated, ignorance is making some of us bark at the wrong tree.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, 06:34 Charles Golomoti, <cwakudabii.golomoti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> KPD, when I first heard that women were agitating for a countrywide kodo kodo, I was like: "do these homo sapiens even know how boards are constituted?".  You know what; a long time ago I attended a meeting where we were tasked to propose names of individuals to sit on one of the boards in my field of specialization. We were required to come up with six names of highly qualified professionals in the country. We chose five men and one woman as the best combo we could dream of, i.e. our dream team. But the woman's name was turned down during the first screening process at the Department of Statutory Corporations, way before the final vetting at OPC, because she was already a member of another very powerful board, if you know what I mean. The only other woman we could have chosen to sit on that particular board, in as far as experience and academic qualifications were concerned, was a PS in the parent ministry. So anyhow, the PS  woman was still going to sit on the board as an ex official. To cut the long story short, we ended up with six men and several ex-officios. Ndiye izi zomangolirira zili zonse chifukwa chozolowera the infamous kota system introduced into Mother Malawi by the Bibida Master Bingu, ndizosathandiza kwenikweni; but merit, merit, and merit. Ndangodutsamo!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> CWG
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