[civsoc-mw] Women demo on equality.

Sun Oct 11 20:15:11 CAT 2020

I don't see the point you are making. My take is that the ladies will
continue with their education

On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 18:30 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Iwe Keyboard,
>
> You probably missed the news that teen age pregnancies have increased
> manifold in the few months of the pandemic....these are virginal births I
> can only surmise!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 11, 2020, at 5:43 AM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> You must be commendable for that. Start at the bottom solving the problem.
> In 20 years it becomes a norm to see a female bouncer on the door. This
> rushing to legislate is ill advised.
>
> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 11:36 Adamson S. Muula, <amuula at medcol.mw> wrote:
>
>> I suspect the Pharmacy degree was just an example.For the pharmacy
>> programme though since its inception, 50% students are females and 50%
>> males. Good morning,
>>
>> adamson
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 at 11:09, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Being a graduate does not mean one is an expert in something. Unima may
>>> as well produced 1m women graduates in the past two months bit none fit to
>>> be at the poisons board or pharmacy board. Maybe these 1m women graduates
>>> specialised in education or nuclear physics. How do you put them to the
>>> water board or Escom?
>>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 11:01 Dunstain Mwaungulu, <
>>> dfmwaungulu at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are being presumptuous. Those who are in the category you mention
>>>> could very well be men. Your argument scarcely address the gender issue
>>>> discussed. Convince me that the University of Malawi in the past 5 years
>>>> has produced less than 150 women graduates, then I will believe you!
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 09:53 Keyboard Boyd Kilembey, <kkilembe at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jaji have you ever attended a meeting where some members had no clue
>>>>> what was before them to decide? It is frustrating. They become petty. They
>>>>> start pretending to know. I wouldn't want the same to be happening in the
>>>>> boards
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 10:45 Dunstain Mwaungulu, <
>>>>> dfmwaungulu at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bwana wanga, Golomoti, we are talking about law here. Law is not a
>>>>>> fact. Whatctfw law now says is that there should be a minimum of each
>>>>>> gender of 40%. Thst is not a factual matter. It is a legal factor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are the facts? The female gender was 23% represented. The
>>>>>> President has admitted this fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His defence is that there were no women around to appoint from. This
>>>>>> is an opinion rather than a fact. The fact is that universities in Malawi
>>>>>> for the past 10 years have been producing more than 300 female graduates.
>>>>>> Why 300 because this is the total number the President has appointed to the
>>>>>> board. So if the President had just looked at the graduate list of one
>>>>>> year, there would be thousands of women graduating each year.  In one year,
>>>>>> he would have a surplus in thousands of women. These are facts.
>>>>>> Given these facts, we can say only two things about the ADVICE the
>>>>>> President got from a) the VICE PRESIDENT, THE CABINET, THE SECRETARY TO THE
>>>>>> PRESIDENT AND CABINET, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE LINE MINISTER, THE LINE PS
>>>>>> AND THE TONSE ALLIANCE
>>>>>> 1. He was properly advised and decided deliberately to ignore the
>>>>>> advice. OR
>>>>>> 2. He was not properly advised
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know Lazarus personally, I reserve my opinion on what actually
>>>>>> happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But that goes to the quality of advice given. The President does not
>>>>>> know all these people. And as the President said, some boards require
>>>>>> certain profociencies. The only people who would have that information
>>>>>> would be the PS. The PS shield have been the first person to apply the Act.
>>>>>> And inform the President that the Act was considered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The President would have told the PS that it cannot be that I cannot
>>>>>> find 150 women who are board material. That is a disgrace. For 50 years +
>>>>>> of the existence of UNIMA, we have failed to produce 150 women? You are
>>>>>> kidding me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More importantly, a good board is one that includes the lay and
>>>>>> others unrelated to the area of operation or supportive services. The PS
>>>>>> should have included these as women only to fulfil the 40/40/20 formula.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are facts, not fable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 08:53 Charles Golomoti, <
>>>>>> cwakudabii.golomoti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TC and Judge Fipamutima are very strange characters, KPD. During my
>>>>>>> school days in the Midwest, the two gentlemen would easily have passed as
>>>>>>> "weirdos". They thrive on empty arguments. Generally, they do not have
>>>>>>> facts on their fingertips, nada! As such, trying to have a civilized
>>>>>>> discussion with them is akin to fighting with a pig in the mud, if you get
>>>>>>> my point. That is their turf, right there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know what; I made my two Tambala contribution on this issue. I
>>>>>>> know the process of appointing Board Members. I have done it. Trevor has
>>>>>>> not, for sure. Fipamutima, may be.  And what was Trevor's response to my
>>>>>>> posting? Read this vitriol:  "Inu Bambo Golomoti, who knew you had such
>>>>>>> drivel in your mouth! Try to clean with Doom". Hee? Was Trevor talking to
>>>>>>> me, or to Joe Gwaladi?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My argument is very simple, KPD. Please listen to me, and listen
>>>>>>> real good: the Tonse-A Team should appoint women into our boards based on
>>>>>>> merit. Period!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CWG
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 8:17 PM KPD <maluwakpd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CWG,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wish TC and DM could comment on your post.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Legislating something is not the same as implementation. When I
>>>>>>>> read the constitution under 'The Executive',  I find Firsf Vice President
>>>>>>>> and Second Vice President. After Muluzi no one was ever made Firsf or
>>>>>>>> second Vice president. But the section is still there. Or was it removed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As you have correctly stated, ignorance is making some of us bark
>>>>>>>> at the wrong tree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, 06:34 Charles Golomoti, <
>>>>>>>> cwakudabii.golomoti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> KPD, when I first heard that women were agitating for a
>>>>>>>>> countrywide kodo kodo, I was like: "do these homo sapiens even know how
>>>>>>>>> boards are constituted?".  You know what; a long time ago I attended a
>>>>>>>>> meeting where we were tasked to propose names of individuals to sit on one
>>>>>>>>> of the boards in my field of specialization. We were required to come up
>>>>>>>>> with six names of highly qualified professionals in the country. We chose
>>>>>>>>> five men and one woman as the best combo we could dream of, i.e. our dream
>>>>>>>>> team. But the woman's name was turned down during the first screening
>>>>>>>>> process at the Department of Statutory Corporations, way before the final
>>>>>>>>> vetting at OPC, because she was already a member of another very powerful
>>>>>>>>> board, if you know what I mean. The only other woman we could have chosen
>>>>>>>>> to sit on that particular board, in as far as experience and academic
>>>>>>>>> qualifications were concerned, was a PS in the parent ministry. So anyhow,
>>>>>>>>> the PS  woman was still going to sit on the board as an ex official. To cut
>>>>>>>>> the long story short, we ended up with six men and several ex-officios.
>>>>>>>>> Ndiye izi zomangolirira zili zonse chifukwa chozolowera the infamous kota
>>>>>>>>> system introduced into Mother Malawi by the Bibida Master Bingu,
>>>>>>>>> ndizosathandiza kwenikweni; but merit, merit, and merit. Ndangodutsamo!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CWG
>>>>>>>>>
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