[civsoc-mw] {Disarmed} RE: Congrats

Adamson S. Muula amuula at medcol.mw
Fri Oct 30 06:30:49 CAT 2020


I believe governments may also be interested in NGOs in this way because
they (the former) can be a pain in the oops. Around 2002 going into 2003,
DFID had allocated about K4.2 billion to support the Malawi NGO sector. Our
Malawi Minister responsible was Mrs Mary Kaphwereza Banda. Remember at the
same time the Open Term and later third term bids came up. I believe the
open termers sensed accurately to imagine some NGOs would not be amused by
this. The weaker the NGOs were, the more secure the bourgeoisie. The
bourgeoisie and reactionaries put up a fight that ended in their favour.
The GBP never arrived.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 at 06:19, Dunstain Mwaungulu <dfmwaungulu at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> My broad comment is that the whole NGO Act should be thrown out. It is an
> unnecessary clog on legal entities that are designed differently legally
> and serve a wider interest than cheap politics. Of course, NGOs have to
> interact with the government, and this is a must because NGOs, as
> interest or pressure groups, are designed, by their nature and purpose, to
> influence government action in the first place. It is absolutely
> unfortunate, that then regulations must be passed by government to stifle
> the right to associate for legitimate purposes and the right to inf;luence
> government actions in the legal structures in which NGOs participate.
>
> i think that it must be recognised that NGOs are now a broad and global
> industry and therefore capable of self-regulating for its expansion and
> influence without government intrusion or confusion
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 6:32 AM Agnes Chimbiri <agnes.chimbiri at undp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> *For me issues about NGO policy/ law; the depoliticization of NGOs,
>> transparency and accountability for NGOs, NGO fees, structured dialogue
>> between NGOs and government are some of the priorities I am bringing to her
>> table. *
>>
>> Spot on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Agnes Mary Chimbiri, Phd
>> Portifolio Manager
>>
>> Responsive Insititutions & Citizen Engangement
>> *United Nations Development Programme*
>>
>> P.O Box 30135, Lilongwe, Malawi
>> Tel: +265 1 773500
>>
>> Mobile: +265 999 980 874 |+265 999 510 580
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>> *From:* civsoc-mw <civsoc-mw-bounces at sdnp.org.mw> *On Behalf Of *Limbani
>> Nsapato
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:42 PM
>> *To:* civsoc-mw at sdnp.org.mw
>> *Subject:* Re: [civsoc-mw] Congrats
>>
>>
>>
>> Hahaha koma Maybach Woyee! Munthu amusankha basi and we accept kuti she
>> is the presidential advisor on NGOs. We congratulate her for this
>> achievement. Let’s begin to assess her from day one as Advisor. Let’s let
>> history be history.
>>
>> For me issues about NGO policy/ law; the depoliticization of NGOs,
>> transparency and accountability for NGOs, NGO fees, structured dialogue
>> between NGOs and government are some of the priorities I am bringing to her
>> table.
>>
>> Limbani Nsapato
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 27 oct. 2020 à 16:44, Maybach Woyee <mbchwoyee5 at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> 
>>
>> Let me sleep. Good evening members, don't clap hands for mediocrity.
>> There are women of substance here not zinazi.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Oct. 2020, 16:42 Maybach Woyee, <mbchwoyee5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Exactly! Her tone clearly shows that she is an expert in bad mouthing not
>> Advisory role. She must be among the women who brash men during bridal
>> showers. I will not be surprised to hear that she's a namkungwi. Isn't
>> Martha another cadet in Tonse Alliance? I am going to chech her record at
>> Baobab, just reading some articles on the website of Baobab. I hope that
>> she didn't not abuse workers with her attitude. Her tone is typical of mrs
>> know it all. Akagwere! A certain guy told me yesterday that she's a Pastor!
>> My God, may God help us.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Oct. 2020, 15:09 Keyboard Boyd Kilembey, <kkilembe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree. They are dangersome these people. The point my educated friend
>> is saying is the Mai kwataine could fall in the same category of dangersome
>> people masquerading as experts.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020, 15:05 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Inu bambo Maybach,
>>
>>
>>
>> You are running away now...don’t. These are professional ass kissers who
>> masquerade as professionals. So “dangerful”! You don’t want them near any
>> managerial position!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2020, at 8:33 AM, Maybach Woyee <mbchwoyee5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hahaha inu Bambo Chimimba,
>>
>> There you go again! Political parties do recruit professionals into
>> government in Malawi? Sorry for my ignorance because I left Malawi during
>> Kamuzu era. I am yet to find out the background of the officers being
>> mentioned in the clip. I assume that they were brought into civil service
>> in 2014 after DPP won elections, in which case, I would say good riddance,
>> Martha may have a point but if these were recruited way before DPP, then
>> she may be making emotional noise not befitting her status. Let me pause
>> here until I get information from Malawi on these officers. Meanwhile, let
>> Martha Kwataine shut up her mouth and focus on her role
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Oct. 2020, 13:50 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Inu bambo Maybach,
>>
>>
>>
>> The VN was made as a parting advice before she took as adviser. Unless
>> you were hiding under the king’s chair, licking his toes,  what she said is
>> nothing new. I was actually surprised that the persons who were being
>> mentioned are still in the ministry. If it were me, I would have already
>> left with my bags without being told to go. These were DPP hacks who do not
>> qualify being called civil servants.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not going to engage you about Martha because I do not know her.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Maybach Woyee <mbchwoyee5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Inu Bambo Chimimba,
>>
>> You miss the point once again. To make sure that you understand, this is
>> a presidential Advisor with due respect, has access to the Minister and
>> President including ACB. She goes venting her anger on social media, even
>> bringing hate speech to the Minister? What if her allegations are not true?
>> Have you heard from the blamed parties? When I listened to this audio, I
>> concluded that the lady has no moral standing to be even receiving salary
>> as an Advisor. If it were me, I would sue this lady. Luckily, she cannot
>> afford to pay me or someone like my rich friend KB. Women like Martha are
>> the ones that create stories to tarnish image or reputation of someone. You
>> may wish to dig deeper into this lady's life, she may have offended many
>> who comes her way even at work. She must shut up her mouth, it's dirty. She
>> cannot advise the President with that mouth. I will not be surprised to
>> hear that amazunza antchito where she's working. She's rude and
>> unmarketable.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have no experience in interference of politicians into civil service in
>> Malawi as I do not work there but isn't Martha doing the very same
>> interference in the audio? Is she a professional health worker? She must be
>> a politician who is getting her egos in a field that she has no expertise
>> whatsoever. If you call Martha the type of health experts in Malawi, then
>> you are doomed. Here, no politician can dictate on issues of
>> professionalism
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Oct. 2020, 12:48 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Inu bambo Maybach,
>>
>> Why are you focusing on attacking the person and not offering substantive
>> solutions to what she said. We have seen in recent years civil servants who
>> are supposed to be non partisan under our constitutional framework taking
>> overtly political positions, being complicit to the abuse of government
>> resources, channeling them towards political campaigns and so on.
>>
>> You were quiet when stuff was happening at the ministry of health under
>> some of these bosses who should have resigned immediately their benefactors
>> lost. We might not agree with what was said in the VN (because the solution
>> offered simply perpetuates the situation) but we cannot sit here and say we
>> do not have a problem on our hands. The civil service is overly
>> politicized. Steps have to be taken to insulate it from political
>> machinations.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 27, 2020, at 6:25 AM, Maybach Woyee <mbchwoyee5 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > Inu Bambo Chimimba,
>> > Mundiyankhulitsatu pambali! Nkhani ya Prince yatha, can you please
>> focus on this serious matter?
>>
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Adamson S. Muula PhD, MPH, MBBS, CPH, PGDip (Public Health Ethics), PGDip
(Global Health), PGD (Palliative Care)
Professor of Epidemiology and Public Health
University of Malawi, College of Medicine
School of Public Health and Family Medicine
Department of Public Health
Chimutu Building Room 850
Private Bag 360, Chichiri
Blantyre 3
Malawi
Email: amuula at medcol.mw
Cell: +265 884233486
Skype address: adamson.sinjanimuula
Publications list: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Muula
*orcid.org/0000-0003-4412-9773 <http://orcid.org/0000-0003-4412-9773>*
Webpage: http://biostat.maths.cc.ac.mw/people/staff/Adamson_S._Muula

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