[civsoc-mw] Women demo on equality.

Keyboard Boyd Kilembey kkilembe at gmail.com
Sat Oct 10 22:43:47 CAT 2020 

Let's talk about them. Sure there are men who get to the top bending their
backs but thete are also women who sleep their way to the top. Your
reasoning is like saying we should not talk about a secretary sleeping her
way into a Mugabe presidential bed because some men also bend their backs?
What type of reasoning is this?

On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, 22:39 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Iwe Keyboard,
>
> These things are there as part of known tropes, aimed at stereotyping.
> That is why they deserved to be condemned.  We never talk about our ass
> kissing male bosses with equal aplomb. And have we not seen so many of
> those.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:12 PM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Trevor the point is that we shouldn't be afraid to say things . It is a
> fact of life that some women like me Harris sleep their way up. I know one
> who slept her way up and became a professor. Had she not slept her way up
> it is unlikely she would have gone up nor becone a profesdor. People do all
> sorts of crazy things to go up. Some sleep their way though, some bribe
> their way, some kill, some gossip, some fake their qualifications, some
> deploy juju, some work hard. We should not be afraid to talk about the
> various ways people, men and women, use yo get to the top.
>
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, 20:37 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Keyboard,
>>
>> This is the third time you have wrongly spelt the name of someone. This
>> is part of your attempt to make her an invisible sexualized object. It
>> reflects more on you than on her fortunately. She won that debate hands
>> down. Even that fly could smell it and knew where to perch.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> A few days ago i was with a lady boss in pne of the parastatals. She
>> didnt know how to translate the Tonse alliance manifest into actionable
>> activities by her organisation. I wondered how she became a boss. I couldnt
>> help maybe because she was a woman. It it were a man i would have thought
>> because of tribe. That is me. I couldnt help thinking she must have slept
>> her way up like jamara Harris.  There ard many women who do that. Have you
>> forgotten what happened at the malawi embasdy in washington? You think the
>> woman was playing snooker?
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, 19:37 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Keyboard,
>>>
>>> That is the problem. You are thinking with your scrotum. We cannot have
>>> a conversation.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 1:14 PM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> What do you mean there are enough qualified women? The problem is you
>>> think somebody has a head, has a nice smile, has two hands then they are
>>> qualified. Some people, men and women, are so petty you wonder  how they
>>> got their degrees. For some women you can't avoid thinking they are like
>>> Tamara Harris - sleeping their way to the top.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, 19:03 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Iwe Keyboard,
>>>>
>>>> You are pretending to listen, but you are not listening at all. There
>>>> are enough qualified women in Malawi at this very moment to fill all the
>>>> boards that we have. By asking us to list names just shows that you are not
>>>> listening (and you do not want to open your eyes to).
>>>>
>>>> The principled issue here is one of recognition (and under the law).
>>>> They are part parcel of Malawi. They should not be treated as second class
>>>> citizens or as an afterthought (not again after the ministerial saga). It
>>>> is against the constitution and against the law.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <
>>>> kkilembe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Mfana I am also afflicted that women are under represented just like
>>>> senas, dwarfs, albinos, ex criminals etc. In the boards. But I would not
>>>> advocate that any of the group is appointed solely based on the fact that
>>>> he is an albino or a dwarf. Merit first. That is the same argument about
>>>> women. It is not necessary for the cvs that I agree. But at least you can
>>>> list names of women whom you felt were qualified but we're left out. You
>>>> and the Jaji have until tomorrow to provide the list otherwise stop arguing
>>>> in circles. For a start consider mathanga, Linda kunja, Jeff we Jeffrey,
>>>> cash madam etc . Let me know which boards you think they can perfectly fit
>>>> and deliver the mandate.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, 13:35 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keyboard,
>>>>>
>>>>> At least you are acknowledging that this is not about CVs!
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of you even have no shame blaming women for the loss of Joyce
>>>>> Banda. Did you not hear that old man with a PhD from Yale go to town, with
>>>>> his supporters, dropping those tropes: Malawi is not ready for a woman
>>>>> president. And there he was recently again (during the campaign) suggesting
>>>>> someone wanted to sleep her way to the top, as if anybody cared when he
>>>>> said “he wants to marry a woman”!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:39 AM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <
>>>>> kkilembe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is the point. It is called networking. Women should go out there
>>>>> and network at moth club, blantyre sports club lilongwe golf club, etc
>>>>> whete thete is the center of gravity. I had respect for roda mbilidzi. She
>>>>> networkef well at blantyre sports club. She was not hiding herself in
>>>>> kitches stuffed witj makala smoke
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, 12:31 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Iwe (Key)board,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not even in that room where you are talking about CVs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you look at the list of board members that was issued, do you
>>>>>> even think gender consideration was even an issue?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can even see kuti iyi ndi yaku Blantyre Sports Club, Lilongwe
>>>>>> Golf Club. Iyi Nde Moth!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <
>>>>>> kkilembe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Mfana what is your suggestion, that we continue packing the boards
>>>>>> with incompetent women ? I think you have little respect for women. I for
>>>>>> one would like to see competent women into these boards even if all the men
>>>>>> in the boards are incompetent. Why don't you want competent women in to
>>>>>> these boards?
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