[Civsoc-mw] HEROES OF OCTOBER 1967 MWANZA ‘WAR'

Louis Nthenda louisnthenda at gmail.com
Fri Oct 13 20:16:51 CAT 2017


So, Prof, I hope other netters will join in.
The majority of the human race just want to go about minding their own
business and doing God's work of creation and maintenance. They take no
active part on either side. So they people who can be heroes are a
miniscule minority. If they are on either side, who are they? How do we
define or "scale" them?

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Adamson S. Muula <amuula at medcol.mw> wrote:

> Thank you. I ask questions but have no answers. You have said what I was
> thinking; but you have explained much better than I did.
>
> adamson
>
> On 13 October 2017 at 06:21, Louis Nthenda <louisnthenda at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Prof, suppose we scale heroism in opposing a dictatorship 1 to 10 with 10
>> being taking up arms in open rebellion. Dictatorship may be of the left
>> like Stalinism or Maoism or of the right like Nazism, Fascism or HKB type.
>> We will in fact find heroes within the system. These may be in high
>> position but secretly working to sabotage the system and maybe providing
>> secret information to the rebels (like Noriega of Mikuyu who featured on
>> these pages). Others may have details of the armed rebellion but refuse to
>> tell the authorities while they themselves do nothing. Etc etc.
>>
>> But your question I take it is: what would we call people on the other
>> side who believe in the system and will tie up so-called rebels and take
>> them to the Thsiri River and throw them to the crocodiles; people who will
>> inform on others to the authorities; people pretending to be on the rebel
>> side but in fact working to betray them. Can't we call these heroes too?
>> They are taking different kinds of risks - risking the contempt of their
>> friends.
>>
>> Am I interpreting your question correctly?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Adamson S. Muula <amuula at medcol.mw>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> May be it would not apply in other circumstances, but the understanding
>>> could be interesting if applied to:
>>>
>>> Britain vs Nazi Germany
>>> Daesh vs the world?
>>>
>>> On 13 October 2017 at 01:25, Louis Nthenda <louisnthenda at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's an interesting question, Prof.
>>>>
>>>> I think the assumption is that heroes are those who are presumed to
>>>> have shown (1) the courage to take / choose the more difficult or tougher
>>>> or more unpopular side of a situation on the principle of some higher
>>>> purpose, when in fact (2) they were already privileged and didn't have to.
>>>>
>>>> In this narrative, it is taken for granted that, to take HKB's side and
>>>> maintain one's privileges at little or no risk was the easier choice and
>>>> therefore not heroic.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:18 AM, Adamson S. Muula <amuula at medcol.mw>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Were there also heroes to remember on the Malawi (Kamuzu) side? Or the
>>>>> heroes we talk about were only on the Chisiza side?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 October 2017 at 18:17, Paliani <palianic at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *A Tribute to the Unsung heroes*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This month of October, exactly marks 50 years after the ‘war’ in
>>>>>> Mwanza between Malawi’ security forces on one front and an armed group of
>>>>>> 16 under the umbrella of Ufulu Umodzi Malawi Party (UUMA) led by Malawi’s
>>>>>> former Home Affairs Minister Yatuta Chisiza on the opposite front.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was during this ‘war’ that Yatuta Chisiza and his lieutenant
>>>>>> Lutengano Mwahimba were shot dead while 5 of their compatriots escaped
>>>>>> successfully to Zambia as one committed suicide when 8 had been captured
>>>>>> alive, later tried at the high court in Blantyre, hanged (except one among
>>>>>> them who became a state witness) and finally buried in unmarked graves in
>>>>>> Zomba in 1969.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For more:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://kemetforum.com/?p=387
>>>>>>
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> (Global Health), PGD (Palliative Care)
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> University of Malawi, College of Medicine
> School of Public Health and Family Medicine
> Department of Public Health
> Chimutu Building Room 850
> Private Bag 360, Chichiri
> Blantyre 3
> Malawi
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