[Mispa-management-l] (Fwd) Re: [af-ix] IXP port fee

[Dr P Nyirenda]

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Subject:	[SPAM] Re: [af-ix] IXP port fee
To:	Dr P Nyirenda <paulos at sdnp.org.mw>, af-ix at af-ix.net
From:	Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz>
Date sent:	Wed, 19 Dec 2018 20:13:41 +0300


Hi Dr Paulos,

 > Do you have additional fees at TIX for providing content services like
 > GGC, Akamai, etc ?

We're not charging for GGC, it's free for every peer, for 
networks/prefixes/users in Tanzania. It's hosted by Seacom and make 
available at TIX "for free". It actually costs us
a) a substantial cross-connect fee, and
b) occasional repair costs of the fiber connecting it to TIX
the fiber was "organised" by the ministry.

Akamai:
It's located at TIX - so you can say it costs us power - and upstream 
bandwidth provided (after a tender process) by one operator, and each 
peer wanting to get the Akamai "service" pays a fee (as per tender) to 
the provider. TISPA(TIX) doesn't touch money.

we have at our own facility started to charge peering fees for 
connections not used for peering. They are not a factor in 
sustainability, and in my opinion mostly to keep the cable [...] at a 
minimum.

And finally, to be Frank: we're "supporting" GGC and Akamai by not 
charging for these 2 ports.

Regards,
Frank



On 19/12/2018 17:39, Dr P Nyirenda wrote:
> On 18 Dec 2018 at 21:55, Frank Habicht wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dr Paulos,
>>
>> I think it is a good thing if an IXP can sustain itself financially.
>> As it happens, many value-adding services at an IXP come with hardware
>> components, and even getting these [possibly donations] out of customs
>> costs money.
> 
> Thank you Frank for the details. Our Malawi ISP Association (MISPA) has agreed to work on
> operating our IXP more sustainably and that is why we are fumbling around for ideas and
> figures. Your contribution will greatly help us reach more detailed agreements. It is hard to
> run an IXP reliably without such resources.
> 
> Do you have additional fees at TIX for providing content services like GGC, Akamai, etc ?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paulos
> ======================================
> Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
> Malawi SDNP PC: http://www.sdnp.org.mw
> NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD http://www.registrar.mw
> Chair: MISPA http://www.mispa.org.mw
> 
> 
>>
>> TIX in Dar, TZ:
>> Fees are as in:
>> https://www.tix.or.tz/tix_mou.pdf page 2
>> +------------------------+--------------+-----------+
>> | Annual Port fees (USD) | TISPA member | Non-member|
>> +------------------------+--------------+-----------+
>> |10/100/1000 BASE-T      |              |           |
>> |1000BASE-xX             | 3,500.-      | 4,000.-   |
>> +------------------------+--------------+-----------+
>> |Additional port         |              |           |
>> |1000BASE-x              | 1,200.-      | 1,700.-   |
>> +------------------------+--------------+-----------+
>> |10GBASE-xR              | 5,500.-      | 6,000.-   |
>> +------------------------+--------------+-----------+
>> |Additional port         |              |           |
>> |10GBASE-xR              | 4,125.-      | 4,625.-   |
>> +------------------------+--------------+-----------+
>>
>> First: note these are ANNUAL fees.
>> [monthly invoicing and payments would increase the admin overhead...]
>> The fees are in my opinion relatively high. It helps support an office,
>> staff, other activities, and support for events (like SAFNOG).
>>
>> NB: TISPA membership is USD 500.- annually.
>>
>> What do others think  experience?
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17/12/2018 19:09, Dr P Nyirenda wrote:
>>> af-ix,
>>>
>>> We are interested in finding out if there are any IXPs in Africa or elsewhere who charge 
a
>>> port fee for players that are peering at the IXP to connect.
>>>
>>> What is the amount for the port fee?
>>>
>>> If the details are confidential then please send me a private e-mail.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Paulos
>>> ======================================
>>> Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
>>> Malawi Internet Exchange, Blantyre, Malawi
>>> http://www.mispa.org.mw/mix.html
>>> Malawi SDNP PC: http://www.sdnp.org.mw
>>> NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD http://www.registrar.mw
>>> Chair: MISPA http://www.mispa.org.mw
>>>
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