[civsoc-mw] Suspension of Registration of New Voters in Mangochi North East

trevor chimimba trevorchimimba at gmail.com
Tue Sep 22 12:12:36 CAT 2020 

KPG, 

You should try some more...I bet you would have seen that it is possible to register on line once you reach the eligibility requirements. 

> On Sep 22, 2020, at 4:30 AM, KPD <maluwakpd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Trevor, 
> 
> I took the liberty to check a number of countries if they register new voters for a by election. I found none.
> 
> New Zealand has laid out steps required for a by-election. Those steps do not include registration of voters.
> 
> Some countries update their voters roll yearly but never register new voters just for a by-election.
> 
> Ndiye kaya aMEC anakatenga kuti zimenezi. 
> 
> A by-election has the power to change a government in countries where they don't have direct presidential elections. Siyomangoseweretsa by adding in new voters as MEC wishes.
> 
> Voters roll is an important document because it helps in planning. You can open it for continuous registration for all but not adding bits of registration here and there. It IS illegal.
> 
> KPD
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2020, 05:40 KPD, <maluwakpd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Trevor,
>> 
>> Your narrative is that countries that have always done that are wrong.
>> 
>> I have a voter's card and I have participated as a voter in a general election and a by-election for a council ward. Those who lose their voters card are given a duplicate. No NEW voters are allowed. 
>> 
>> I am talking from experience and you are just assuming.  
>> 
>> A by-election is held due to a vacancy in a constituency or ward. The reasons for a vacancy are numerous including nullification. So in your opinion certain by-elections require additional new voters and others don't.
>> 
>> Here is the British definition of a by-election;
>> 
>> "A by-election is an election held in a single political constituency to fill a vacancy arising during a government's term of office"
>> 
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>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2020, 02:00 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> KPD, 
>>> 
>>> Registration is envisaged in a general election, in a by election, in a referendum, etc. The law provides the periods within which such registration shall take place. This idea that registration only takes place every five years and the roll established remains the same in those five years is simply not supported by the law (except to that narrow extent as specified by the MSCA, ie in the case of annulment the voter roll remains the same as in the annulled election). 
>>> 
>>> Eligibility to vote and registering to vote are two different processes. The constitution guarantees one’s right to vote by setting down criteria when eligibility is instantiated. It cannot await the next general election. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 21, 2020, at 10:28 AM, KPD <maluwakpd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Trevor,
>>>> 
>>>> On the contrary, citizenry is guaranteed to vote every 5 years without fail. There is no guarantee of ever voting in between.
>>>> 
>>>> The whole country has people reaching 18 years of age every day. Even for the main elections, registration is done more than 2 months prio election day. There are hundreds, if not thousands, who attain 18 years in the intervening period before the elections. They can't claim that they are left out unless you want to say registration should be done on the voting day so that no one turning 18 years should not be denied their right.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It is unfair to claim to be giving the right to vote to pockets of people just because they are lucky to have a by-election. Let them wait for 5 years like any other voter in the country.
>>>> 
>>>> There is no reasonable justification for having new registration everytime there is a by election apart from wasting of resources and enriching the MEC guys with unjustified allowances.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2020, 13:25 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> KPD, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the contrary, we should be working towards credible systems where the eligible citizenry (and others eligible to vote) can register at any time. To achieve this would require decentralization of the systems. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The regularity of an  election cycle has nothing to do with the right to vote. Once one attains 18 they attain eligibility to vote. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 11:34 PM, KPD <maluwakpd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Continuous registration to accommodate those who turn 18 shouldn't apply to a by election or any election that is held within the 5 years. It is for the next election main election i.e 2024..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is travesty of democracy to add new voters when the election is to replace a member who may be deceased or who vacate the position for whatever reason. New roll is compiled when parliament is dissolved. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> New elections are done every 5 years and so is voter registration.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ALL people register and a voters roll created and inspected for the election of parliament for a term of 5 years.  Those so registered have the mandate to vote in an election in that constituency over that 5 year period. That roll remains valid for 5 years. Only transfers and removal of deceased from the roll is done should there be any election within the 5 years.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If parliament is dissolved a new voters roll is created by registering everyone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The registration of new voters, whether they have just turned 18 or not, has been perpetuated because of ALLOWANCES. It is not provided for. It has turned something that is basically illegal into normal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is easy to go to court after a by election and argue that the wrong voters roll with unknown names was used.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As I have said, I am talking from what obtains in other countries. New party members are recruited and registered for party primary elections if there is a by election. However, such people can not vote in a by election unless they were in the voters roll of the first elections.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020, 20:59 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Look at the provisions of the PPEA relating to registration of voters and the power given to the EC in that regard. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> > On Sep 19, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Maybach Woyee <mbchwoyee5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> > Mfana, 
>>>>>>> > Which provision are you referring to?
>>>>>>> > MB
>>>>>>> 
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