[civsoc-mw] Women demo on equality.

[Keyboard Boyd Kilembey]

Jaji have you ever attended a meeting where some members had no clue what
was before them to decide? It is frustrating. They become petty. They start
pretending to know. I wouldn't want the same to be happening in the boards

On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 10:45 Dunstain Mwaungulu, <dfmwaungulu at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Bwana wanga, Golomoti, we are talking about law here. Law is not a fact.
> Whatctfw law now says is that there should be a minimum of each gender of
> 40%. Thst is not a factual matter. It is a legal factor.
>
> What are the facts? The female gender was 23% represented. The President
> has admitted this fact.
>
> His defence is that there were no women around to appoint from. This is an
> opinion rather than a fact. The fact is that universities in Malawi for the
> past 10 years have been producing more than 300 female graduates. Why 300
> because this is the total number the President has appointed to the board.
> So if the President had just looked at the graduate list of one year, there
> would be thousands of women graduating each year.  In one year, he would
> have a surplus in thousands of women. These are facts.
> Given these facts, we can say only two things about the ADVICE the
> President got from a) the VICE PRESIDENT, THE CABINET, THE SECRETARY TO THE
> PRESIDENT AND CABINET, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE LINE MINISTER, THE LINE PS
> AND THE TONSE ALLIANCE
> 1. He was properly advised and decided deliberately to ignore the advice.
> OR
> 2. He was not properly advised
>
> I know Lazarus personally, I reserve my opinion on what actually happened.
>
> But that goes to the quality of advice given. The President does not know
> all these people. And as the President said, some boards require certain
> profociencies. The only people who would have that information would be the
> PS. The PS shield have been the first person to apply the Act. And inform
> the President that the Act was considered.
>
> The President would have told the PS that it cannot be that I cannot find
> 150 women who are board material. That is a disgrace. For 50 years + of the
> existence of UNIMA, we have failed to produce 150 women? You are kidding me?
>
> More importantly, a good board is one that includes the lay and others
> unrelated to the area of operation or supportive services. The PS should
> have included these as women only to fulfil the 40/40/20 formula.
>
> These are facts, not fable.
>
> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, 08:53 Charles Golomoti, <
> cwakudabii.golomoti at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> TC and Judge Fipamutima are very strange characters, KPD. During my
>> school days in the Midwest, the two gentlemen would easily have passed as
>> "weirdos". They thrive on empty arguments. Generally, they do not have
>> facts on their fingertips, nada! As such, trying to have a civilized
>> discussion with them is akin to fighting with a pig in the mud, if you get
>> my point. That is their turf, right there.
>>
>> You know what; I made my two Tambala contribution on this issue. I know
>> the process of appointing Board Members. I have done it. Trevor has not,
>> for sure. Fipamutima, may be.  And what was Trevor's response to my
>> posting? Read this vitriol:  "Inu Bambo Golomoti, who knew you had such
>> drivel in your mouth! Try to clean with Doom". Hee? Was Trevor talking to
>> me, or to Joe Gwaladi?
>>
>> My argument is very simple, KPD. Please listen to me, and listen real
>> good: the Tonse-A Team should appoint women into our boards based on merit.
>> Period!
>>
>> CWG
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 8:17 PM KPD <maluwakpd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> CWG,
>>>
>>> I wish TC and DM could comment on your post.
>>>
>>> Legislating something is not the same as implementation. When I read the
>>> constitution under 'The Executive',  I find Firsf Vice President and Second
>>> Vice President. After Muluzi no one was ever made Firsf or second Vice
>>> president. But the section is still there. Or was it removed?
>>>
>>> As you have correctly stated, ignorance is making some of us bark at the
>>> wrong tree.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, 06:34 Charles Golomoti, <
>>> cwakudabii.golomoti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> KPD, when I first heard that women were agitating for a countrywide
>>>> kodo kodo, I was like: "do these homo sapiens even know how boards are
>>>> constituted?".  You know what; a long time ago I attended a meeting where
>>>> we were tasked to propose names of individuals to sit on one of the boards
>>>> in my field of specialization. We were required to come up with six names
>>>> of highly qualified professionals in the country. We chose five men and one
>>>> woman as the best combo we could dream of, i.e. our dream team. But the
>>>> woman's name was turned down during the first screening process at the
>>>> Department of Statutory Corporations, way before the final vetting at OPC,
>>>> because she was already a member of another very powerful board, if you
>>>> know what I mean. The only other woman we could have chosen to sit on that
>>>> particular board, in as far as experience and academic qualifications were
>>>> concerned, was a PS in the parent ministry. So anyhow, the PS  woman was
>>>> still going to sit on the board as an ex official. To cut the long story
>>>> short, we ended up with six men and several ex-officios. Ndiye izi
>>>> zomangolirira zili zonse chifukwa chozolowera the infamous kota system
>>>> introduced into Mother Malawi by the Bibida Master Bingu,
>>>> ndizosathandiza kwenikweni; but merit, merit, and merit. Ndangodutsamo!
>>>>
>>>> CWG
>>>>
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