[civsoc-mw] Governance prize from Chatham House

[temwa malange]

Trevor,

The award should go to whom?.


On Sat, 31 Oct 2020, 22:29 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Iwe Keyboard,
>
>
> I am saying these kinds of awards are not meant for the judiciary. You are
> celebrating now because they came first. What if they were number 2 or 3.
>
> In our body politic, are they any more deserving than those “agitators and
> confusionists” that kept virgil as that fellow who wanted to steal their
> vote rushed to be sworn in and claim legitimacy while claiming falsely that
> the opposition wanted to bring chaos and civil war; than those lawyers who
> took a stab at challenging the outcome in the courts as people across the
> country listened an kept their hopes alive and braved the assault on their
> personal freedoms?
>
> Do you see how politicised this whole thing is? No different from that
> award from that Sudanese billionaire
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2020, at 2:23 PM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> What exactly is your problem? Is it that the award came from great Britain
> or that the judges don't need a positive stimuli? When you have kids coming
> late to school try giving those who come early some sweets. You will see a
> dramatic change for the better. Don't waste time whipping the late comers
> because over time they become used to being whipped. They would actually
> beg you to whip them in case you forget. The judges deserve a positive
> stimuli from whatever source.
>
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020, 19:34 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Iwe Keyboard,
>>
>> Just pause, take a breath and reflect upon what you have written.
>>
>> This is not surprising of course, for someone who thinks being called
>> shithole countries is alright
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> They don't give these awards to their supreme courts because good
>> behaviour is already reinforced. But ours is different. Bad behaviour is
>> the norm. So when good behaviour is detected it becomes an abnorm. It
>> requires a reward. Over time you will see our justice system will align
>> itself to good behaviours.
>>
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020, 17:37 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Iwe Keyboard,
>>>
>>> Kodi umayesa kukhala judge ndi masewera eti. Just check the requirements
>>> under our constitution. Reward for good behaviour my foot. These folks
>>> cannot dare to give such an award to their own Supreme Court I can tell
>>> you. It shakes the very foundations upon which the judiciary is founded:
>>> its independence.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> It is good to reward good behaviour. Such awards reinforce good
>>> behaviour. I am sure there could be magistrates and judges in other
>>> countries who have been motivated by such an awards. Doing good becomes
>>> second nature like using tooth brush in the morning. The judges, though
>>> they were doing their job, deserve a commendation. They did their job in a
>>> good way. They could have chosen to do the same job in a bad way. Law or
>>> justice is not an exact science. The 200 cars case should remind you of
>>> what I am trying to say
>>>
>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020, 15:33 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Keyboard,
>>>>
>>>> I am not commenting on the facts of that case. I have not read or heard
>>>> enough to know what is happening in the courtroom.
>>>>
>>>> I remain skeptical of awarding judges any awards about governance
>>>> (corruption before fact and corruption after the fact deserve equal
>>>> opprobrium!)
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <kkilembe at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> The fact is judge tembo had no proof that anybody was receiving a
>>>> bribe. He should have restricted himself on the transactions or
>>>> conversations between himself and Mpinganjira. Hey I thought lawyers or
>>>> judges would be judicious with legal facts. Now we know brown was the
>>>> conduit thanks to this excited judge. I thought you would condemn such
>>>> conjecture.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020, 15:17 trevor chimimba, <trevorchimimba at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Iwe Keyboard,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not mentioned any name. I do not know why you decided to
>>>>> mention Lovemore. The fact that we have a case such as this is scandal
>>>>> enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a little familiarity with the politics of awards...I stopped a
>>>>> long ago celebrating them. And please do not dare to offer me one. I will
>>>>> refuse it in your face.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Oct 31, 2020, at 7:47 AM, Keyboard Boyd Kilembey <
>>>>> kkilembe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
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